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 01-27-2004, 11:08 Post: 75189
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My preference is for the Dodge. They offer the most hp, torque, and towing capactity of ANY pickup on the market currently. The Cummins also gives you the torque way down low (1600 rpm) lower than the others in the useable rpm range. I like the styling but I have a big gripe with the "so called" quad cab. Ford and GM offer a MUCH larger full and genuine crew cab which is what I wish Dodge would offer. The Cummins diesel was voted one of the 10 best engines this year and is by far the most established and reliable of big 3. The 48RE automatic transmission Dodge is offering is still developing a track record and I would not recommend a diesel pickup with an automatic transmission. None of them stand up to the wear and tear in the long run and it also precludes the use of an exhaust brake which makes towing so much more pleasant and saves on brakes. Dodge currently is the only manufacturer that offers and will warrant the Jacobs Exhaust brake. HIGHLY RECOMMENED! Ford may end up discontinuing the 6.0 Power Stroke due to so many problems and customer complaints. They may get the problems worked out but for now, I would not recommend one. The Cummins is designed to go 400,000 miles without a rebuild and this is not an exaggerated claim. MANY have gone this far and farther. I would suggest you follow these websites to get a feel for owner satisfaction and getting more info.

http://www.turbodieselregister.com/

http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/duramax6600.htm

http://www.thedieselstop.com/

They should be able to give you a flavor for each brand of truck and diesel engine.






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 01-27-2004, 12:00 Post: 75198
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Scott, Dodge and Cummins have made some changes for 2004. If Ford would offer the Caterpillar 3126B and NV5600 6 or 7 speed. I would be there with ya drivin' a Ford! I bought the Dodge mostly for the Cummins and drive train. Ford by far has the best interior in my opinion.






Link:   Dodge unveils 2004 1/2 Ram Heavy Duty Cummins 600 pickup 

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 01-27-2004, 12:16 Post: 75200
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another article.






Link:   Pickup truck diesel competition just keeps getting better. 

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 01-27-2004, 12:40 Post: 75207
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Ken, all 3 are equipped with turbo chargers. It is not unreasonable to expect and get at least 150,000 to 200,000 miles on a turbo charge provided you take care of it and let it cool down prior to engine shut down especially after a hard pull. Usually a few minute or so is good. The Cummins is actually derated in Dodge truck to protect the transmission and power trains. A stock Cummins puts out 660 ft./lbs. of torque in the Cummins version of this engine which is used in MANY other trucks, Ford included. Cummins does not rate their hp numbers as high due to limiting their version of the B Series engine to 2,500 rpm vs 3250 rpm in the Dodge.






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 01-27-2004, 12:45 Post: 75208
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These are the current output #'s for the Dodge Cummins. An Edge EZ chip and a boost elbow or waste gate turnbuckle easily turn this engine up approx. 50 hp. and 150 ft./lbs.






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The automatics are gradully getting better and more able to handle the power and torque of these diesel engines but if you plan to do heavy towing; get the manual transmission. It is much stronger and you can use an exhaust brake. If you do light to moderate towing; you can get by with an automatic but you still will not be able to use an exhaust brake. You can but you risk damaging the transmission. Automatic transmissions can be upgraded (at considerable expense) to handle heavy towing and increased power output buy still do not work well with an exhaust brake.






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Here is one of the more popular "black boxes or chips" you can install on a diesel that dramaticly increases power. They typically run around $650 and up.






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